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		<title>By: Citizen Thrift</title>
		<link>http://webbizkb.com/stats-and-tracking/why-using-google-analytics-is-a-bad-idea/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen Thrift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a very solid case why not to use Google Analytics.

However the main reason I find people dont put it in, is because it is such a performance drag. I have seen sites that load in under 2 seconds, when the Google Analytics code is added, that the load time rockets up to over 10 seconds.

I am sure you are well aware of the 5 second rule, where if your site hasnt loaded and grabbed your visitors attention in 5 seconds or less, you have now lost that potential client.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a very solid case why not to use Google Analytics.</p>
<p>However the main reason I find people dont put it in, is because it is such a performance drag. I have seen sites that load in under 2 seconds, when the Google Analytics code is added, that the load time rockets up to over 10 seconds.</p>
<p>I am sure you are well aware of the 5 second rule, where if your site hasnt loaded and grabbed your visitors attention in 5 seconds or less, you have now lost that potential client.</p>
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		<title>By: Faza</title>
		<link>http://webbizkb.com/stats-and-tracking/why-using-google-analytics-is-a-bad-idea/#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>Faza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tried piwik, but yeah, its definetly not for shared hosting. I do believe though that while Google for sure is using analytics data for its SERP, it using it as a broad pointers if you like regarding traffic etc for whatever they require but not actually using it to target site per site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried piwik, but yeah, its definetly not for shared hosting. I do believe though that while Google for sure is using analytics data for its SERP, it using it as a broad pointers if you like regarding traffic etc for whatever they require but not actually using it to target site per site.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Nugent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Nugent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kyile,

I use &lt;a href=&quot;http://piwik.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Piwik &lt;/a&gt;for site statistics. It&#039;s a free PHP script that provides the same kind of information as Google Analytics without having Google looking over your shoulder. Being a PHP script, you have to do the installation yourself but it&#039;s pretty simple. I recommend putting it on its own domain, though it will happily run in a subdomain. You could install it in a subfolder on an existing domain but it might impact the page loading speed of that domain, especially on a shared hosting account.

Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kyile,</p>
<p>I use <a href="http://piwik.org/" rel="nofollow">Piwik </a>for <a href="http://webbizkb.com/go/site_stats" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://webbizkb.com/go/site_stats';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">site statistics</a>. It&#8217;s a free PHP script that provides the same kind of information as Google Analytics without having Google looking over your shoulder. Being a PHP script, you have to do the installation yourself but it&#8217;s pretty simple. I recommend putting it on its own domain, though it will happily run in a subdomain. You could install it in a subfolder on an existing domain but it might impact the page loading speed of that domain, especially on a shared hosting account.</p>
<p>Gary</p>
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		<title>By: Kyile</title>
		<link>http://webbizkb.com/stats-and-tracking/why-using-google-analytics-is-a-bad-idea/#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what if I&#039;ve had GA on the site for a year or so?  Is there any hope in getting better SERPS if I take it off?  Thanks for the great info.  I found your link off one of your sales in Flippa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what if I&#8217;ve had GA on the site for a year or so?  Is there any hope in getting better SERPS if I take it off?  Thanks for the great info.  I found your link off one of your sales in Flippa.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Beckenham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Beckenham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

I want to thank you for your detailed explanation as I was not even aware that Google does not really approve of small affiliate sites. 

The blog title really intrigued me and thanks again for sharing your expertise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary,</p>
<p>I want to thank you for your detailed explanation as I was not even aware that Google does not really approve of small affiliate sites. </p>
<p>The blog title really intrigued me and thanks again for sharing your expertise</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Watson</title>
		<link>http://webbizkb.com/stats-and-tracking/why-using-google-analytics-is-a-bad-idea/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.
 First of all, it takes too long for you to see any results-24 to 72 hours.

 StatCounter returned results in under an hour. I&#039;ll leave it on my site for a couple more weeks but as soon as I get indexed, GA is gone. 

That&#039;s for the tip advising us not to put up any affiliate links on our sites. 

I had heard it mentioned once before not to put ads on our sites and I totally forgot about it until now. Removing Amazon widget, saving for another time.

Thanks again for a great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.<br />
 First of all, it takes too long for you to see any results-24 to 72 hours.</p>
<p> StatCounter returned results in under an hour. I&#8217;ll leave it on my site for a couple more weeks but as soon as I get indexed, GA is gone. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s for the tip advising us not to put up any affiliate links on our sites. </p>
<p>I had heard it mentioned once before not to put ads on our sites and I totally forgot about it until now. Removing Amazon widget, saving for another time.</p>
<p>Thanks again for a great post.</p>
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		<title>By: K Greenhaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Greenhaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently attended a social media conference and one of the speakers said that Google&#039;s PageRank is basically worthless and Google isn&#039;t really even using it anymore or giving it credence. Not to say that small affiliate sites aren&#039;t getting negatively impacted in search results due to Google Analytics. 

But I do know that if you&#039;re looking for valuable metrics on performance and ranking, there are plenty of other sites out there like Alexa and QuantCast where you can install similar tracking codes on your site to deliver more meaningful metrics regarding search rankings, top keywords searched, and the demographics of your customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently attended a social media conference and one of the speakers said that Google&#8217;s PageRank is basically worthless and Google isn&#8217;t really even using it anymore or giving it credence. Not to say that small affiliate sites aren&#8217;t getting negatively impacted in search results due to Google Analytics. </p>
<p>But I do know that if you&#8217;re looking for valuable metrics on performance and ranking, there are plenty of other sites out there like Alexa and QuantCast where you can install similar tracking codes on your site to deliver more meaningful metrics regarding search rankings, top keywords searched, and the demographics of your customers.</p>
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		<title>By: gnugent</title>
		<link>http://webbizkb.com/stats-and-tracking/why-using-google-analytics-is-a-bad-idea/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>gnugent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcia: My own site generator - SiteBuilder Elite (http://www.sitebuilderelite.com) - defaults to displaying no ads when a site is created. Ad networks can be turned on as and when you like but I think waiting those 3-4 weeks before doing that helps your site&#039;s rankings. 

New sites can get indexed quite quickly by Google, rise in the ranks and start earning almost immediately (if they have ads). When Google realises they&#039;re affiliate sites, they drop in the rankings and earnings go down. And sometimes the site gets sandboxed. But that can happen regardless of the software you use to build a site. Webmasters need to think in terms of months in looking at how a site is perfoming not the initial blip that can happen after a new site launches. 

SiteBuilder Elite allows you to configure your site in many ways and you can have it download articles to your pages or upload your own articles for more unique content. It also allows you to drip feed new pages to a site on autopilot so it looks like there&#039;s a human behind it adding a couple of new pages every few days. It does a ton of other stuff too.

Gary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcia: My own site generator &#8211; SiteBuilder Elite (<a href="http://www.sitebuilderelite.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sitebuilderelite.com</a>) &#8211; defaults to displaying no ads when a site is created. Ad networks can be turned on as and when you like but I think waiting those 3-4 weeks before doing that helps your site&#8217;s rankings. </p>
<p>New sites can get indexed quite quickly by Google, rise in the ranks and start earning almost immediately (if they have ads). When Google realises they&#8217;re affiliate sites, they drop in the rankings and earnings go down. And sometimes the site gets sandboxed. But that can happen regardless of the software you use to build a site. Webmasters need to think in terms of months in looking at how a site is perfoming not the initial blip that can happen after a new site launches. </p>
<p><a href="http://webbizkb.com/go/sbe" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='sitebuilder elite';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">SiteBuilder Elite</a> allows you to configure your site in many ways and you can have it download articles to your pages or upload your own articles for more unique content. It also allows you to drip feed new pages to a site on autopilot so it looks like there&#8217;s a human behind it adding a couple of new pages every few days. It does a ton of other stuff too.</p>
<p>Gary.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cashton</title>
		<link>http://webbizkb.com/stats-and-tracking/why-using-google-analytics-is-a-bad-idea/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re dead on with this Gary. The very nature of Google is the reason it becomes harder for a successful affiliate to rank well over time. As a marketer&#039;s business grows they become more organized and tech savvy. The result is more consistant domain registrant data, a larger number of sites published with the same footprint, all the way up to the leasing of a dedicated server with private name servers and IP&#039;s that are used exclusively for this one person&#039;s sites.

Even worse is the fact that while you may be smart enough to run your own license of a different analytics solution, a large number of other sites don&#039;t. So when your website or backlinking software, etc. reach out to the community, Google is still tracking your connections, logging the unique identifiers, and connecting the dots across numerous sites. 

Google provides us with some valuable tools and information for our projects. However, for the reasons you illustrated and more, those of us engaged in marketing activities should take precautionary measures such as logging out of our Google accounts and clearing cookies when we&#039;re done using their tools - for starters. I&#039;m at the point where I do almost everything behind a quality paid proxy service. And when I&#039;m running submission software I do it while connected to the WiFi at one of several local Starbucks. I feel more protected and it gives me an excuse to leave the house and get a good coffee buzz going.

Happy New Year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re dead on with this Gary. The very nature of Google is the reason it becomes harder for a successful affiliate to rank well over time. As a marketer&#8217;s business grows they become more organized and tech savvy. The result is more consistant domain registrant data, a larger number of sites published with the same footprint, all the way up to the leasing of a dedicated server with private name servers and IP&#8217;s that are used exclusively for this one person&#8217;s sites.</p>
<p>Even worse is the fact that while you may be smart enough to run your own license of a different analytics solution, a large number of other sites don&#8217;t. So when your website or backlinking software, etc. reach out to the community, Google is still tracking your connections, logging the unique identifiers, and connecting the dots across numerous sites. </p>
<p>Google provides us with some valuable tools and information for our projects. However, for the reasons you illustrated and more, those of us engaged in marketing activities should take precautionary measures such as logging out of our Google accounts and clearing cookies when we&#8217;re done using their tools &#8211; for starters. I&#8217;m at the point where I do almost everything behind a quality paid proxy service. And when I&#8217;m running submission software I do it while connected to the WiFi at one of several local Starbucks. I feel more protected and it gives me an excuse to leave the house and get a good coffee buzz going.</p>
<p>Happy New Year!</p>
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		<title>By: Marcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this good information. I had heard from other sources that it was not a good idea to monetize a new site for at least 4 weeks but I didn&#039;t understand why - just that it would get the site put in the Google sandbox for 6 mo. - or forever. I am also confused about how the auto site generators (as well as affiliate plugins, etc.) can make claims that you can put up a new, monetized site (that does include good content), drive traffic to it and get immediate sales. I want to set up some sites but I don&#039;t want to waste my good domains names by making sites that google is going to sandbox. Do the auto site generators really work (if you don&#039;t use google analytics)? I am not a techie and I sure would like to use an auto site generator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this good information. I had heard from other sources that it was not a good idea to monetize a new site for at least 4 weeks but I didn&#8217;t understand why &#8211; just that it would get the site put in the Google sandbox for 6 mo. &#8211; or forever. I am also confused about how the auto site generators (as well as affiliate plugins, etc.) can make claims that you can put up a new, monetized site (that does include good content), <a href="http://webbizkb.com/go/get_visitors" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://webbizkb.com/go/get_visitors';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">drive traffic</a> to it and get immediate sales. I want to set up some sites but I don&#8217;t want to waste my good domains names by making sites that google is going to sandbox. Do the auto site generators really work (if you don&#8217;t use google analytics)? I am not a techie and I sure would like to use an auto site generator.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Bagatto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Bagatto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting observation. And easy enough to do. Also there is no downside, nor an upside to GA except for the initial 4-6 weeks. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting observation. And easy enough to do. Also there is no downside, nor an upside to GA except for the initial 4-6 weeks. Thanks</p>
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